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以 Linux 解决方案日在这儿以计算机伙伴国际公司 'CA 世界 2003 年会议，距 Linux 创建者的小组辩论 Linus Torvalds（新闻-网站）对于 SuSE Linux CTO Juergen Geck 和拉里 Augustin， VA 软件的主席，他们全部对 Unix 的未来表达他们的见解。
Torvalds 说他在事物上“稍微产生偏见”，一笑声，接着说问题不是如此多对 Unix 的 Linux，但是说得更确切些环绕普通的计算机基本设施。软件在遵照硬件在过去 20 年中送了的同样的路径和在尝试以较高层次加价值。
“Linux 和一般而论打开源文件关于这件同样的事是全部现象哪里你开始使标准化在基本设施上和不再关怀低水平的物品因为令人激动的东西在发生那，” Torvalds 说。
“如果你认为它是理所当然的，没有有增加值。真有增加值不在操作系统里或者编译器，但是在集成中。我的信念是操作系统将主宰所有基本设施物品，和专门化将作上那。集成，专门化和支持是被加的公司的价值是相象的 CA。”
SuSE 的 Geck 说 Unix 将最终慢慢减弱被 Linux 取代，而 VA 软件的 Augustin 说 Linux 跟他是 Unix 的下一代。他也说 Unix 将随着时间的流逝被 Linux 取代由于它不简单地因为许多在老私人的操作系统上再就要发展的商务有经济的意义。
约翰“Maddog”·霍尔，跟 Linux 国际性组织一起的主任，同意，说许多公司在知道当 Linux 获得功能跟他们的私人的 Unix 系统一起继续将不再有意义。
对他的部分来说，默里 Berkowitz， CA 的主要的 Linux 战略家，公司说已经提供对 Unix 和 Linux 的共存来说和也把移植协助提供给 Linux。
卡丽 Burchard，在 PeopleSoft 的主任，说那当公司支持它的 Unix 顾客的时候，长期替换那和其中在别处的支出是有吸引力的重新安置和某物 PeopleSoft 盼望。
Torvalds 也告诉观众他释放在星期天头一个 beta 上对即将到来的 Linux 来说 2.6 将被以后是的核心 beta 测试的几月，和那种检查 beta 的顾客需要。
“他们需要在他们的单独和专门的装载量下面检查它。如果你想回避肮脏的惊异，检查它。我肯定你将是高兴的，但是如果有任何问题，我们将固定他们，”他说。
对企业来说（新闻-网站），巨大的在可扩展性方面的增加将是明显的由于有 64-CPU 用机器制造运转 Linux。“但是我更大约在意桌面经验而非可扩展性，和我在尝试做出更多使其光滑的整个的桌面经验和优美，这样它能够甚至事实上同时不跟用户一起做许多事情注意到” Torvalds 说。
Geck 说转换到 2.6 核心将是次要的由于 SuSE 半途已经下跌那条路，当 PeopleSoft 的 Burchard 告诉观众公司在移植对 Linux 的 PeopleTools 的时候，那好地是正在进行，和最后将有在平台上运行的大约 170 个申请。
和往常一样， SCO 团体的针对 IBM 的诉讼的问题被讨论，以说它“被填满稳固和表示没有什么东西的 VA 软件的 Augustin。对任何来说的潜力真影响 Linux 和任何 Linux 工业实际上是没有什么，”他说。
“我们在看着尝试想出什么的公司处置它的商务。这诉讼不关于知识产权，它跟 IBM 一起关于专门契约的问题。当你解释对于顾客，他们理解它的时候和继续前进，因为 Linux 提供他们强迫性的价值，”他说。
在问答会议期间，镶板被问如果当前大的 Linux 分配装置的数字在帮助或者伤害开放资源的操作系统。Torvalds 说他是大的竞争的爱好者，到吵闹的鼓掌。也，许多多于 100 分配装置被少量人使用，他说。
“清楚地， 100 分配装置为中间设备公司不是有实效的，所以他们倾向试验只不过一些和能够发现它混淆不清。把它看作政治：是的，选择在混淆不清，但是它是比没有选择更好的，”他向强鼓掌再度说。
       
被询问单一标志上和主动的对 2.6 的目录集成核心， Augustin 说以可得到的申请而言在开放资源的世界里在内核上有好的对广告的支持。
转向 Linux 桌面的问题， SuSE 的 Geck 说有错过的部分在桌面上的 Linux，但是那这些将及时地出现。“这将及时地来，和你需要 ISVs 相信平台和顾客软件需要被支持。但是你在你能够有被支持的申请以前需要硬件支持，和当你有中间设备的时候，你能够有应用支持程序。这及时地都来，”他说。
被询问数字的权利管理和在 2.6 中的知识产权核心和远处， Torvalds 说版本 2.6 将不支持微软公司 '钯倡议“和那些数字的权利管理种东西。你能够在 Linux 上面做许多 DRM 事情，和这不是某物我们在看见一巨大的来自开放资源的社区的推动。”
在微软世界，缺省值方法乃是使东西成为核心的一部分， Augustin 说，而 Linux 发展采用被用压条法培值的方法哪里东西在核心系统上方被建造，关于这些事物该怎样被处理导致很不同的方法。



At the Linux Solution Day here at Computer Associates International Inc.'s CA World 2003 conference, panelists from Linux creator Linus Torvalds (news - web sites) to SuSE Linux CTO Juergen Geck and Larry Augustin, the chairman of VA Software, all expressed their views on the future of Unix.

Torvalds said he was "slightly biased" on the matter, garnering a laugh, adding that the issue was not so much Linux versus Unix, but rather around computer infrastructure in general. Software is following the same path that hardware has taken over the past 20 years and is trying to add value at a higher level.

"Linux and open source in general are all about this same phenomena where you start to standardize on infrastructure and no longer care about the low-level stuff because the exciting things are happening above that," Torvalds said.

"If you take it for granted, there is no value-add. The real value-add is not in the operating system or the compilers, but in the integration. My belief is that the operating system will take over all the infrastructure stuff, and specialization will be done above that. The integration, specialization and support are the added value for company's like CA."

SuSE's Geck said Unix will eventually fade away to be replaced by Linux, while VA Software's Augustin said Linux to him is the next generation of Unix. He too said Unix will be replaced by Linux over time as it simply does not make economic sense for many businesses to be developing on an old proprietary operating system anymore.

John "Maddog" Hall, a director with Linux International, agreed, saying that many companies are realizing that as Linux gains functionality it will no longer make sense to continue with their proprietary Unix systems.

For his part, Murray Berkowitz, CA's chief Linux strategist, said the vendors are already providing for the co-existence of Unix and Linux and offering porting assistance to Linux as well.

Carrie Burchard, a director at PeopleSoft, said that while the company supports its Unix customers, the long-term replacement of that and the relocation of that expenditure elsewhere are attractive and something PeopleSoft looks forward to.

Torvalds also told the audience that he released on Sunday the first beta for the upcoming Linux 2.6 kernel, which will be followed by a few months of beta testing, and that customers need to test the beta.

"They need to test it under their individual and specific loads. If you want to avoid nasty surprises, test it. I'm sure you'll be happy, but if there are any issues, we'll fix them," he said.

For the enterprise (news - web sites), huge increases in scalability will be evident as there are 64-CPU machines running Linux. "But I care more about the desktop experience than scalability, and I am trying to make the whole desktop experience more smooth and graceful, so it could do a lot of things at the same time without the user actually even noticing that," Torvalds said.

Geck said the changeover to the 2.6 kernel will be minor as SuSE is already halfway down that road, while PeopleSoft's Burchard told the audience that the company is porting PeopleTools to Linux, which is well under way, and will ultimately have some 170 applications running on the platform.

As always, the issue of The SCO Group's lawsuit against IBM was discussed, with VA Software's Augustin saying it is "filled with sound and signifying nothing. The potential for any real impact on Linux and any Linux industry is virtually none," he said.

"We're looking at a company that is trying to work out what to do with its business. This lawsuit is not about intellectual property, it's about specific contractual issues with IBM. When you explain that to customers, they understand it and move on, since Linux offers them compelling value," he said.

During a question and answer session, the panel was asked if the current large number of Linux distributions was helping or hurting the open-source operating system. Torvalds said he is a big fan of competition, to loud applause. Also, many of the more than 100 distributions are used by a small number of people, he said.

"Clearly, 100 distributions is not practical for a middleware vendor, so they tend to test just a few and can find it confusing. Think of it as politics: Yes, choice is confusing, but it is better than no choice," he said to strong applause again.

         

Asked about single-sign on and Active Directory integration in the 2.6 kernel, Augustin said there is good support for AD above the kernel in the open-source world in terms of applications available.

Turning to the issue of the Linux desktop, SuSE's Geck said there are pieces missing for Linux on the desktop, but that these will show up in time. "This will come in time, and you need ISVs to trust the platform and customer software needs to be supported. But you need the hardware support before you can have the applications supported, and when you have the middleware, you can have the application support. This all comes in time," he said.

Asked about digital rights management and intellectual property rights in the 2.6 kernel and beyond, Torvalds said Version 2.6 will not support Microsoft Corp.'s Palladium initiative "and those digital rights management kind of things. You can do a lot of DRM things on top of Linux, and this is not something we are seeing a huge push from the open-source community."

In a Microsoft world, the default approach is to build things into the kernel, Augustin said, while Linux development takes a layered approach where things are built above the core system, leading to a very different approach as to how these matters should be dealt with.

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